The MSM parrots are making a big deal of Rand Paul’s victory over his ideologically identical opponent Trey Grayson. They are both neocons. Either way we lose.
These two neocons were simply vying to replace another neocon, career crook Jim Bunning, who is retiring.
This is a non-event and another net loss for freedom.
Update: This site supports Ron Paul. However Rand Paul is clearly a neocon. Go here to find out why.
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Thanks for saying what needs to be said.
Neither Ron Paul not Rand Paul are willing to address the OBVIOUS truths regarding 9/11. Both are members of the criminal Republican Party, which is no different from the criminal Democratic Party.
Apologists for these lowlifes keep telling me that Ron Paul has to “play politics” and not mention that the official 9/11 story is obviously untrue or else risk not being elected. The problem is that as long as they do not recognize the facts, they have to play along with ‘the war on terror.’ We all remember what Rand Paul said about Gauntanamo detainees, right?
Candidates that tell THE TRUTH or no candidates at all.
To say Ron and Rand Paul are neocons is not 100% truthful either. In order to win elections, you have to cater to mainstream America, and mainstream America is not ready for 9-11 truth. Ron Paul is not perfect but has gone on record to say that it should be re-investigated; the real fight is against the Federal Reserve not 9-11 and RP is the champion. The banking and monetary reform is priority; 9-11 can wait. To call Ron and Rand Paul ‘neocons’ is not an accurate depiction and only hurts the poster’s credibility.
Don’t make the perfect the enemy of the good, disinter.
The idea that Rand Paul is a neocon is flat-out wrong.
Explain this, then:
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
Definitely agree with you about Sestak, but I don’t see where Rand Paul remotely qualifies as a neocon. Perhaps some evidence to substantiate the assertion would help.
Ok:
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
ron paul, rand paul? neocons?
good god, go listen to ron pauls speach on neocons so you actually know what that term means. sheeez.
i don’t tell religious folks that they are out of their mind when i’m hanging with them and want to get along with them because they happen to be nice people. i also don’t tell them that 9-11 was an inside job because i have to live in the same community as them and don’t feel like having them tell me i’m out of my mind.
ok, now you go and be a politician. not me.
tell me how that whole “9-11 was an inside job” thing brought in the votes and the campaign cash…..
Shouldn’t it be brown shirt? So you are an official story believer? Go tell your neighbours that, they will really think you are out of your mind.
Then PLEASE tell us, oh great one,,,who is the best! Then prove it!
Are you people still voting? Huh, chumps!
lol why do you listen to a feeble person saying the Pauls’ are neocons, this person can’t even spell dissenter for god’s sake
Rand Paul is a NEOCON!
“Rand Paul: Try, Convict and Lock Up Terrorists In Guantanamo”
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
imp has it right, only chumps continue to vote in rigged elections. and only chumps would sit there and say “9/11 can wait” while you vote for NEOCON TERRORISTS like Rand Paul.
Have you NO humanity left in you AT ALL Americans? You would sit there and let 100% innocent foreign people be imprisoned and tortured when you KNOW full well that it was YOUR OWN PEOPLE (and that includes your buds in Israel) that did it?
Put the Pauls in jail along with ALL the other politicians and ALL the bankers. Give them a fair trial. And if there is justice in this world or even a tiny shred of humanity left in any American, they will throw away the key.
Oh I am so very sorry. I forgot to mention that Rand Paul is a “constitutionalist.”
You see, according to his campaign website, “He has also called for a Constitutional declaration of war with Afghanistan.”
Now, why would we do that?
Is it because ‘them there ragheads did 9/11!!!!’ ???
THAT’S why the truth matters, you filthy neocon murderers.
At least congress would be acting constitutionally.
I find it strange that my very appropriate comment , the one that you are obviously replying to , has been removed.
Is there censorship here too?
Jim, no comment on this site is censored.
“Neither Ron Paul not Rand Paul are willing to address the OBVIOUS truths regarding 9/11.”
Other structural changes (the return to law) need to be made before that can happens. Ron Paul does not accept any congressional perks that cost the tax payer.
A good strategy is to choose battles that the MSM cannot use to paint you in a corner. Before we can have a judicial finding of fact regarding 9-11 we have to return to rule of law – constitutional government. Once those underpinnings are reasserted, the the real battle for 911 truth can begin.
There is no reason to believe Rand will be any different than his father regarding congressional perks.
Most people don’t like the Paul’s because they do not support our weird blood lust relationship with Israel. The main definition of a NEO-CON is an “undying support for Israel’s apartheid and racial mass murder”. But they don’t attack the Paul(s) for that – instead – they attack them for not shouting to the top of their lungs in the middle of the street “911 was an inside job”. What will that do for us? Would pasting a 911 truth badge on the vest in our current quasi legal murderous and tyrannical environment do one thing to make anything better right now.
Before you can prosecute – you need to reassert the constitution. Once we get our constitution back – then things will change very rapidly indeed.
Fight to win. Avoid loosing on issues that can’t be won at the moment. Baby steps.
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“You see, according to his campaign website, “He has also called for a Constitutional declaration of war with Afghanistan.”
Now, why would we do that?”
Well because then it would become a legislative, rather than an executive order issue. Once it became legislative the congress would have to account for the war funding. Once it became a legislative issue, Ron Paul, who is against both the invasion and occupation, of Iraq and Afghanistan, would have a chance to end the war.
Obama – just as Bush did – is running the war and using off book funding through executive order.
It costs 300 Million a day just to top off the Marines Gas tanks in the Afghan theater. From what I know about Ron Paul, he considers that absurd.
Ron Paul is not a neocon.
Rand Paul is clearly a neocon. See this:
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
Hey Libtards- Rand Paul is more Anti War than Obama or should we say Barry Setoro
what the hell is this site a propaganda outlet to smear the pauls , if you have ever heard them talk about this stuff you know that that link is to a set up page or that operatives in the republican party posted that cause the whole republican party is against those two …why cause they won’t play the crooked game the rest of em are playing … I agree with hugh kelly why listen to these paid operatives who are too stupid to spell dissenter right , that’s what I’ve come to expect from these types who are too damn dumb to stand up for what’s right and for their own freedoms but instead get paid to be traitors to America and to themselves .
This site supports Ron Paul.
We do NOT support the neocon Rand Paul for this reason:
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
Rand Paul’s acceptance of illegal war bothers me. Maybe, that’s the reason he is not allowed at the grownup’s table on Thanksgiving at his mother’s house.
It’s lose, not loose…Have a nice day!
Thanks. Fixed.
Regarding the” Let it Wait Sept 11 Attacks investigation”. What are you morons or just doltz?
It’s 10 years gone already U Dinks and the Joos are safe and still robbing us blind.
Get this,term NEO conservatives came about from past democrats transferring to the Re’pubic party. All smoke and mirrors ,a cover-up for JewZionks.With one Yoo-Yoo Chink thrown in.
Remember the USS Liberty }sreal killings–decades have passed–all forgotten and }searl is our pall.
For the two obtuse posters that are critical of one word Mis-spelled–eatsh!T. USA is in a mess and you both have a problem with Neo-coons instead of Zionist Jews.Would I be blasted by spelling correctly–SinAgod ?
I think there are two major points being overlooked in this “discussion”
First, regarding Guantanamo, the idea is to TRY and convict via trials by jury as opposed to military tribunals. Neocons would love military tribunals while the Pauls favor jury trials with constitutional protections for all.
Second, regarding Afghanistan, the key here is the idea of a formal declaration of war by congress. Without a formal declaration, Geneva Convention does not apply and government accountability in this illegal war is nonexistent. A formal declaration would mean doing it legally and voting down a declaration of war means an end to it.
Let’s agree to raise the bar on this discussion by not overlooking these details.
Which is why RAND is a neocon:
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
Your like a one trick pony Disinter. Is that the best you got to try and label him a Neo-Con? Obviously tou don’t know what a neocon truly is.
Wes – do explain what a neocon is since you are the only one that knows…
“Either way we loose.”
Hard to take anyone serious who doesn’t know the difference between lose and loose.
You lose.
Just wanted to say, another website loses credence and I’ll no longer be checking my news here because of the “Rand Paul is a Neo Con” article.
This is an opinion and the story is projected from a certain point of view instead of being presented from a neutral stance.
I disagree with some of Rand Pauls polices but He a good 10 times more in line with the Constitution than Obama or Bush.
I would have voted for him as well, considering the choices.
The fact that he is the son of Ron Paul means a lot as well.
It is not opinion, it is fact. From Rand himself:
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
Easy for you guys to trash Rand Paul or his father. You can only go so far in exposing to problem. Getting rid of the Fed and the IRS is a good start. Just remember what happened to others that went “too far”. Like JFK, RFK, Wellstone, John Tower and others. They got croaked in short order.
You are a shill. Ron and Rand Paul have been fighting the cancer inside the Republican Party from within. Ron Paul tried to run as a Libertarian but was shut down by the machine. They and a few others like them are the last hope…Wake up!
I agree, Ron Paul is a hero.
Rand is not:
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
Ron Paul a neo-con? This is probably written by one of those guys who tries to expose 9/11 on video, all while wearing holey t-shirt and sweat pants. Yeah, America is certainly going to buy that!
You’re joking right?
I watched the Grayson / Paul debate last week. They didn’t agree on much of anything.
Paul will never vote for an unbalanced budget. Grayson said that this was unrealistic.
Paul said that the Congress needs to declare war to go to war. Grayson didn’t agree.
Paul would eliminate the Department of Education and Agriculture. Grayson would keep them both because he believes they play important roles.
On and on and on…
Paul is not a neo-con. His views diverged from Grayson’s substantially. He will be the most pro-liberty voice in the Senate by far.
Guess you missed this:
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
No, I did not mis that, but you are picking one issue where they may be similar out of dozens where they are clearly different as a basis for declaring that they are exactly the same. It’s nonsense.
jwpegler – True, he may have some libertarian and some neocon positions. That just makes he that much more dishonest in my book.
He is either confused or he is a crook.
Ship all Neo Cons on a 1 way to Tel Aviv
Rand Paul = NEOCON!
BOWLING GREEN, KENTUCKY – Leading United States Senate candidate Rand Paul today criticized the Obama administration’s decision to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center and try terrorism suspects in United States Civil Courts.
“Foreign terrorists do not deserve the protections of our Constitution,” said Dr. Paul. “These thugs should stand before military tribunals and be kept off American soil. I will always fight to keep Kentucky safe and that starts with cracking down on our enemies.”
Dr. Paul believes in strong national defense and thinks military spending should be our country’s top budget priority. He has also called for a Constitutional declaration of war with Afghanistan.
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
Well here we go again, because of his adoration by the teaparty I cannot feel comfortable about Rand. If he is just standing up there saying what THEY want to hear he is another whore, and that was the impression I got from my investigation of Rand. The declaration of war was probably his father’s idea and it is a good and clever one, but yeehaa “We’re gonna take back our government!”? A little too much like the I want my country back chant coming from the idiot teapartiers for my taste.
I tell you, nothing makes me think like posts from “writers” who don’t know the difference between lose and loose…….
Spelling mistake corrected. Lose, not loose.
“Foreign terrorists do not deserve the protections of our Constitution,” said Dr. Paul.
Maybe he was talking about Obama’s chief of Staff and his father, Rahm Emmanuel?
@ Disinter
You are absolutely crazy if you think they are neo-cons the Federal reserve is the main problem. That is what gives this never ending revolving door of dirt bag presidents the power to steal from everyone, peddle drugs in our streets, and continue the relentless wars in the name of securing our country. If anything you should support Ron and Rand Paul they are the only ones with a lick of sense. They support our constitution, individual liberty, private personal property rights, and might be the only ones left that can actually restore this country. But hey with tards like you i guess what we really have to look forward to is Aldous Huxley’s A brave new world in real life. I cant wait to be micro chipped!
I supported Ron Paul years before Ernie Hancock coined the term “Ron Paul Revolution”. I do not support neocons, and Rand is a neocon.
http://www.randpaul2010.com/2009/11/rand-paul-try-convict-and-lock-up-terrorists-in-guantanamo/
Voting is for fools. The CONstitution isn’t legally binding on anybody. There is no federal government, just a criminal mafia that goes after the other one because it doesn’t like competition.
Since Ron Paul was the Libertarian candidate for President in 1980, how did he wind up in the Gang Of Plunderers, and why does he remain there, if he’s what most people claim that he is? Why, after his own party did everything to marginalize him during the 2008 campaign short of washing him out of the debate videos?
And why in hell would he call for a congressional declaration of war on Afghanistan? Is he talking about now, or before it happened? In either case, only a person living under a rock for the past twenty years, with only the end of their thumb for nourishment, would not know that every justification for going in there in the first place was a lie; they just want to steal their oil. The USSA is the only country on this planet that is constantly bombing other countries, or threatening to do the same, unless they let Uncle Scam’s corporate buddies rape and steal their resources, and turn their country into a wholly-owned subsidiary of PepsiCo. The only war (actually, colonial occupation) this country has ever been involved in that it either didn’t start itself, or didn’t manage to maneuver the “enemy” into giving them a justification for, was the War of Independence. The bottom line is, whether there was a declaration or not, it’s still the same old shit. Old men start wars based on lies, young men die in them, banks get rich financing all sides, the military contractors and weapons manufacturers get rich, and while the entire country goes to hell, the Usurper-in-Chief is worried about USSA-IsraHELL relations and bailouts for the banksters who bankrolled his campaign. Sorry to wander off the reservation a little bit there . . .
Obviously, a number of people other than myself can see that something smells here. It’s kind of hard to convince myself, but somehow I’m getting the feeling that Ron Paul isn’t exactly what he claims to be. And as they say, the acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree.
You know how most people in the world view the USA? (And I do mean MOST, not just your buddies in Europe and Israel.)
They see you as filthy, genocidal murderers who elevate a fucking Big Mac to the status above that of a human being.
The people of Afghanistan are human beings goddamnit! YOUR CRIMINAL GOVERNMENT which YOU VOTED FOR and which you DIDNT PROTEST AGAINST created the Taliban – The former NSC head and current NS advisor to Obombya Zbigniew Brzezinski has said so OPENLY. So you SHIT on the people of Afghanistan in 1979, luring the Russians in. Then you create the Taliban and give them weapons. Then you bomb them into the stone age over and over and over again. The you blame them for 9/11. Then you bomb them. The you fucking throw their puppies off of cliffs. Then you torture them.
The TRUTH is you’re just a bunch of bloodthirsty killers who LOVE killing Afghans. You keep on voting for subhuman filth like Reagan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Paul, and meanwhile the killing goes on and on and on and on. TELL ME HOW THE FACTS DIFFER FROM THIS VIEWPOINT.
Meanwhile, you want to talk about bankers and your pathetic constitution which even George Fucking Washington didn’t follow. What a bunch of mindless children you are.
If you think participating in rigged elections is going to have any effect at all, you are totally and completely delusional. You Americans are THE BAD GUYS. And if you don’t like it then you best get rid of your fucking government NOW and stop engaging in this electoral nonsense.
The Pauls are politicians in the most evil empire ever foisted upon humanity. The empire that funded the bolsheviks, the empire that funded the nazis, the empire that committed genocide against the people of north america, the empire with bases in more than 100 countries around the world. If you don’t have the human decency to overthrow the criminal lowlifes that rule over you, at least fucking shoot yourself and get out of the fucking way.
What a bunch of crap! You sound like a disappointed brown shirt for the globalists and the Banksters. Change the name of this website from disinter to dis-informer. This only goes to prove that even an idiot can have a webpage.
There are 2 Tea Partys, the original started by Ron Paul during his campaign and the one hijacked by Neo-Cons Sarah Palin and Glen Beck.
And also hijacked by neocons like Rand Paul.
TO DISINTER
First – Sending the prisoners to any sort of trial would expose the lies that put them there and find out what they are actually guilty of. It’s a proposal that would definitely end the current stand-off.
Second – Asking congress to declare war would also expose the lies and lack of evidence that put us there. It’s a proposal that would bring our troops home.
Third – The Tea Party that Rand was referring to has a limited Government, balanced budget, low taxes, sound money, no financial intervention and staunch protectors of the constitution – Not the interventionist Republican party base like McCain or Palin’s version of the Tea Party.
Fourth – Rand want’s a strong military, yes but don’t we all? Rand wants out troops home to defend and protect the US and it’s people. He does not want our troops in illegal wars
Five – The Paul’s do not suggest 9-11 was an inside job because history says if you do, the establishment, media, the Neo-cons and your Political opposition will crush you (see Debra Medina) and your financial base will desert you.
Do what Ron says: re-investigate, charge and prosecute who was responsible.
Thepaulssuck, disinter, etc… I know where you’re coming from and I understand and agree with your anger. We are all angry at the state of our country right now. We all bitterly detest what happened on 911. Some honest politicians I’m sure feel the same. But you have to understand the position that they and “all of us as Americans” are in.
This country “and others” has been taken over by a nightmarish… mind boggling… ruthless conspiracy. We understand that you know this. But then also you should know that the groups in control are the most ruthless, obscenely wealthy, morally inept, conniving, persistent, intelligent, organized, murderous and evil people… arguably to set foot on planet earth.
The ones who did 911 did not just recently take power. They’ve been in control for a long time. The neo-cons are not new, that’s just one of the names they’re called at present time. They’ve created and funded both sides of just about every war in modern history. Think of the wars and atrocities that have occurred in recent past… how many millions and millions have been killed as well as 911 and the current wars?
They control just about everything they need to get evil like this accomplished. The media… the politicians…the judges… the corporations… the money…and unfortunately the majority of still sleeping Americans.
Unless the American public is ready to pick up all their guns, shotguns, sticks, axes and pitchforks and march on Washington to physically take it back (a scenario I highly doubt will ever happen) then they’re not going to give up the seat anytime soon. They are in power right now and we all understand the fed is the heart. The fed and all central banks are how they’ve gotten control of everything.
I personally feel that there are some politicians that understand this also. I think they are looking to strike at the heart while wading through some of the other issues… that while extremely important! , must take a back seat for now. 911 should never take a back seat… we know… but if they’re to get within striking distance, they must! get themselves and many others in position or within reach; and they need our help.
If Rand or Ron Paul or anyone else strolls into political debates, news conferences or interviews shouting “911 was an inside job!! 911 was an inside job!! ,
Politically they’re done… finished… toast…
As disheartening as that may sound… deep down we all know this. This is why I support them even though they don’t admit outright in public about 911. Will they turn out to be Politicians that help the American people break from this repugnant deceitful group in power? I don’t know. But many of us are certainly hoping so.
aPatriot
I never brought up 9/11. It is irrelevant to the fact that Rand is a neocon.
Your precious USA is being destroyed by design.
It DOES NOT MATTER which piece of filth you “elect.”
Politicians lose their corporate funding if they tell the truth about 9/11??? WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU VOTING FOR CORPORATE CANDIDATES?
Corps have too much power you say? BURN THEM DOWN YOU FUCKING IDIOTS – YOUR ENTIRE COUNTRY IS AT STAKE!!!
Oh, but it is so much easier to engage in fucking stupid mental gymnastics – a constitutional declaration of war against Afghanistan will magically reveal the lies the war is built upon? WHAT KIND OF FUCKING FANTASY WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN???
Some fucking American idiot above said that you filthy fucking Americans “need” a strong military? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU NEED IT FOR? To kill THREE MILLION innocent Vietnamese? To go to war in Europe because FDR fooled you into thinking Pearl Harbor was a “sneak attack”? (My god, you are so FUCKING stupid!) To kill TWO MILLION innocent Koreans? To kill 250,000 poor Salvadorean peasants? To kill MILLIONS of Iraqis. TELL ME YOU FUCKING COWARDS!!!! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU “NEED” YOUR FILTHY FUCKING CHILD-RAPIST MILITARY FOR????
Each of you who goes and votes for Rand Paul or any other piece of subhuman American garbage has buckets and buckets of blood on your hands. The world will fucking rejoice when you are living in the misery you fucking deserve.
Neo-con my ass, who wrote this hit peice? Stop working for the globalist. Its your children who will be slaves!
This coming from a Raytheon IP… Gee, I can’t possibly imagine why YOU would support a neocon…
“Some honest politicians I’m sure feel the same.”
And so do many in the military, FBI, State Department and CIA.
An ex dean of the US Army War college recently gave an interview calling a spade a spade and categorically stating 911 was hatched out of Tel Aviv by Mossad and rouge US intelligence mafiosa.
Remember the Christmas Crotch Bomber? A State department official, Patrick Kennedy, under oath, told a congressional committee that the only reason the “crotch bomber”, who was on a no fly list, was able to acquire a visa and board the flight was because HLS asked for a waiver because of an “on going intelligence investigation”.
There’s a video on CSPAN – and plenty of links in the search indexes/
Before this was told to congress, 100,000,000$ in funding was appropriated for full body scan equipment from vendors providing our Synogress with choir boys to play “find the quarter with”.
It was a fraud perpetrated on US tax payers, just as 911, from the getgo!
We have to move beyond gossip and inuendo – this is serious stuff. High Crimes are being committed by an alleged (or vichy) government against citizens of the United States of America. We need to set aside the vanities of name calling – popularity queens-man-ship and bell of blog oneupmanship so we can focus and plan.
Kevin Philips, an adviser to Reagan, stated on a CSPAN call in a year or so ago, suggested the only way out was a US coup followed by a short term provisional government in order to make cases against the beltway traitors.
I hate to have to be the one to inform you, but Rand Paul isn’t a neo-con. I guarantee you I hate neo-cons as much as you do. Just thought I’d point that out.
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