Here’s one the mainstream media isn’t going to tell you: County sheriffs in Wyoming are demanding that federal agents actually abide by the Constitution, or face arrest. Even better, a U.S. District Court agreed according to the Keene Free Press:
The court decision was the result of a suit against both the BATF and the IRS by Mattis and other members of the Wyoming Sheriff’s Association. The suit in the Wyoming federal court district sought restoration of the protections enshrined in the United States Constitution and the Wyoming Constitution.
Guess what? The District Court ruled in favor of the sheriffs. In fact, they stated, Wyoming is a sovereign state and the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers exceeding that of any other state or federal official.” Go back and re-read this quote.
The court confirms and asserts that “the duly elected sheriff of a county is the highest law enforcement official within a county and has law enforcement powers EXCEEDING that of any other state OR federal official.” And you thought the 10th Amendment was dead and buried — not in Wyoming, not yet.
Bighorn County Sheriff Dave Mattis comments:
“If a sheriff doesn’t want the Feds in his county he has the constitutional right and power to keep them out, or ask them to leave, or retain them in custody.”
“I am reacting in response to the actions of federal employees who have attempted to deprive citizens of my county of their privacy, their liberty, and their property without regard to constitutional safeguards. I hope that more sheriffs all across America will join us in protecting their citizens from the illegal activities of the IRS, EPA, BATF, FBI, or any other federal agency that is operating outside the confines of constitutional law. Employees of the IRS and the EPA are no longer welcome in Bighorn County unless they intend to operate in conformance to constitutional law.”
The implications are huge:
But it gets even better. Since the judge stated that the sheriff “has law enforcement powers EXCEEDING that of any other state OR federal official,” the Wyoming sheriffs are flexing their muscles. They are demanding access to all BATF files. Why? So as to verify that the agency is not violating provisions of Wyoming law that prohibits the registration of firearms or the keeping of a registry of firearm owners. This would be wrong.
The sheriffs are also demanding that federal agencies immediately cease the seizure of private property and the impoundment of private bank accounts without regard to due process in Wyoming state courts.
This case is not just some amusing mountain melodrama. This is a BIG deal. This case is yet further evidence that the 10th Amendment is not yet totally dead, or in a complete decay in the United States. It is also significant in that it can, may, and hopefully will be interpreted to mean that “political subdivisions of a State are included within the meaning of the amendment, or that the powers exercised by a sheriff are an extension of those common law powers which the 10th Amendment explicitly reserves to the People, if they are not granted to the federal government or specifically prohibited to the States.”
It appears to me that one office where the Libertarian Party should focus it’s limited resources is County Sheriff. The change that could be made is nothing to laugh at. Meanwhile, there are still a bunch of nuts wasting valuable resources supporting those that seek offices that will never be won.
Interesting. Ultimately, it’s a decision that will most likely be overturned. Federal law trumps state law, this is a basic fact of federalism. It’s only limitation is on actions that only the state can have.
Furthermore, this judge is incorrect. A state is not a soverign state. That has been derailed constantly for the last hundred years.
I know the liberatarians are up in arms about this and are happy. Just remember, Constitutional Law is something that no political affiliation can ultimately change at will.
This person is absolutely wrong. Federal Law does not trump the constitution. Any law passed that violates the constitution is not a law at all. States are sovereign and states rights are protected via the 10th ammendment. If the people are behind the sherrif, let the federal government send more suits and they can see who has the muscle. We are Americans and will not stand for violations of our rights. We will jump in to defend our fellow American, even from a fed or local cop. We are getting pissed and our patience is wearing thin. I cannot wait till they declare Marshall Law! Remember what they did to Mussolini and his wife?
Ferny Reyes did not say that federal law trumps the Constitution. He clearly said it trumps state law. States are not sovereign in that they can do whatever they want. They must abide by the federal Constitution. States do not get to ignore the federal Constitution as a sovereign nation would be able to do.
Trouble w/ liberals is you forgot to learn the constitution and bill of rights!!
NO federal law does not trump state law.. The Constitution is what created the federal government, to act AS AGENTS OF THE STATE. period.. But still you can keep your constitution, ILL KEEP MY DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE thank you very much.
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The Declaration of Independence is not the supreme law of the land, the US Constitution is. It clearly states in the Constitution that it is the supreme law of the land. This is known as the supremacy clause, which means that all other laws, state and local are subservient to federal law.
Federal law does NOT trump State law. The States are SOVEREIGN and have every power OVER the Federal Government up to and including secession from the Union.
Therefore, the STATE has power over the Federal Government to render all laws, regulations, and actions of the Federal Government VOID and illegal and disallowed in the respective States.
Of course the Federal powers will say they have authority over the States. That’s when the States must repeat their statement that the States have all such authority and power OVER the Federal Government. And act upon it.
We don’t negotiate with terrorists.
Ferny, not according to the ruling handed down by the Supreme Court in Sherrif Mack’s case. They held that the state and Federal are separate spheres with supremacy within their respective spheres.
Ferny,
If you’re going to make claims like, ” Federal law trumps state law” and “this judge is incorrect. A state is not a soverign state. That has been derailed constantly for the last hundred years” you’d better be prepared to prove it.
I’m calling you on this! Provide the references in CONSTITUTIONAL LAW that back up your claims!. You federal woosies are going to be on the run some day!
Article VI, Clause 2
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
Clearly this shows that federal law supersedes state and local laws.
We are not a democracy. Congress cannot just pass any law for which it thinks it can get the legislative votes. We are a Republic of States; check the pledge to the flag and the Constitution. These sovereign states have joined together to form a central (federal) government for certain limited functions and anything outside these limited powers is still the power of the states. The only laws that trump the state’s laws are those that are Constitutional and do not violate the expressed purpose of the Constitution. Any law passed after the radification of the Constitution and it’s Amendments is subject to the purvue of the states to decide whether they think it is Constitutional. If they think not, and proceed accordingly in some manner, the Federal government may challenge them in court. The did; they lost. Look at medical marrajuanna. It’s a great example: a federal law that is ignored by many states. It’s the basic tenet of state nullification of federal law.
Good point, Bill. Very good point.
States do not get to determine what laws are constitutional or not. That is the job of the federal courts and ultimately the Supreme Court. Sure a state can sue but they aren’t getting to determine if a law is constitutional or not. They are asking the federal courts to make that determination.
Thus, no, the federal government doesn’t challenge the state, unless they are saying that the state is in violation of the law. The state challenges the federal government on the constitutionality and the federal courts decide if the state is correct or not.
And you are wrong on the marijuana laws. Federal law trumps state law so that if a state says it’s legal yet the federal government says it’s illegal then it is illegal. The state law is subordinate to federal law and can’t contradict federal law. Now the feds can decide not to prosecute but that doesn’t mean the state has supremacy.
Federal law is only supreme in the area of federal power enumerated in the Constitution.
If the power is not listed in the Constitution than how can the federal government be supreme in a power it does not have?
Ferny,, I think you have watched too many episodes of Law and Order,,where the feds come iin and say they are taking over and it might look like the feds can do that,, I am sure in several places its just accepted as fact,, but its erroneous. The Sheriff in every county in the US is the top law enforcement officer in the county,, his deputies are next in line,, all are subordinate to the Sheriff, even the feds…. In fact the feds cannot even go into a local police department and take over either, because the Chief is the top enforcement officer and the only one that can trump the local police is the Sheriff,, State Police are at the direction of the Governor and only the Governor can trump a Sheriffs authority The Feds really have no authority except that which is defined/limited in the constitution, I.E regulation of interstate commerce… and they can police federal lands,, but other than that,, they really have no say over your or my life,, homeland security department,, health and human services education department etc are all an over reach of the federal government
Well, if the federal government wants to arm a few thousand IRS agents and BATF and go in and tell the state of Wyoming that they are not sovereign anymore…I’d be happy to go help……Wyoming.
Title 18 UNITED STATES CODE Section 242
Layman’s terms: ANY person or entity attempting to violate ones constitutional rights are in violation of constitutional law and subject to fines and imprisonment.
NOBODY OR ORGANIZATION has the power to retract any part of the constitution. 3rd amendment explains why. This is the checks and balances written because of human nature and greed. If the feds are trying to break the law they are not above it just because they are feds. Show us where it says any official may change the constitution, it’s against the law
Hey Ferny, Your an Idiot of epic proportions. I bet your one of those tree huggin tofu fartin frikkin socialists who thinks they have the right to tell other people how to live. STATE law, trumps federal law you dolt. I think your history teacher obviously did not teach you about the constitution. Either that or you were to busy brown nosing or smokin dope. Try using research and fact before you just go blowing smoke out of your ass
Before you go calling people idiots, you probably should make sure you aren’t saying something stupid like “state law trumps federal law.”
The Constitution Trumps Federal Law, Read the Constitution in its Entirety and you will Retract this statement
F. Reyes, sir that was a statement of ignorance. Or possibly one of deceit. I hope for your sake it was of ignorance. It is easier to replace when the Truth be known.
Ferny, you are completely wrong. State laws trump federal laws that are outside the scope of the 18 enumerated powers granted to the federal government. If the federal government is exercising one of these 18 powers of Article 1, section 8, then it has authority, but 99.99999% of the time, they are illegally encroaching, and sheriffs across this republic are waking up to this fact…
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread768297/pg1. Check out tenthamendmentcenter.com for facts on this and quite supporting federal tyranny. States are sovereign, and are the people who created the federal government. The created is NOT greater than the creator. You misunderstand “sovereign.” If the People created the federal government, who is the sovereign? The federal government??? Please re-educate yourself on the constitution and rule of law. And, by the way, this republic is NOT “one nation,” it is a union of nation/states, exactly what was intended, but we have allowed this federal beast to engulf us all into the fraud of this being “The United States” instead of the “united States of America,” a completely different thing. if you want to be a corporate federal citizen, you have that choice, but don’t accept it through fraud and ignorance, and thereby give your rights away and accept privileges that you are taxed for among other things..
And, by the way, this article information appears to be false… http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message227513/pg1
Federal does no trump state laws
Good post!
Hmmm, I thought we were a republic?
Constitutionally it is.
Sure enough is!!!
Does a state have the sovereign power of creating treaties with foreign governments? Does the state have the sovereign power of invading another country? Does the state have the sovereign power of setting immigration policy? No it doesn’t so it’s not totally sovereign.
thanks for inviting me to your website.
quite a simple page but with informative content.
well done.
A state is not a sovereign state? Any attorney will tell you there are two sovereigns in matters of Criminal Law, State and Federal. That’s why Michael Vick can get charged twice for essentially the same crime.
Federal Law trumps State Law? What part of the 10th amendmemnt isn’t clear? Do you even know what it is? Do you understand the difference between “rights” and “powers”, and who has which? Where do powers inherently reside? What about rights?
Y’all need to study the Constitution and come back when you’re a little more educated.
You’re ignorant children. Time to grow up. You’ve got maybe 4 years.
peace+freedom
You must be a complete dumbass, the founding farthers set it up the way they did so left wing fucks like you could not destroy the country……
And to keep you right-wing fucks from putting prayer in our schools.
While I would not have use the crude, yet accurate, term “left wing fucks,” I take exception to Left’s statement, “And to keep you right-wing fucks from putting prayer in our schools.” Hey Left, read a book and I don’t mean sex comic book. The “separation of church and state” is a new discussion. The only discussion about religion by our founders while coming up with the 1st (as in VERY FIRST) was “Congress shall make no law” on the subject. They didn’t want the subject to even come up in political circles – EVER. What motivated them to do the 1st Amendment was that each colony was predominantly a different Christian denomination and there was an old habit in the motherland of the local government supporting the church with money and therefore strings attached. Our founders wanted none of this. Whatever the question that might come up about the relationship between church and state, they want government to say NOTHING. “Make no law” means the government never has anything to say about the question of religion. We have gotten somewhat away from that. It should be that anywhere, anytime, a man or woman wants to pray outloud, the arrogant asses in the government will simply bite their tongue and say nothing. That’s the true spirit of the 1st Amendment. If you don’t believe it, I suggest you read a book on the original intentions of our founders.
Sorry, LEFT…but prayer was already IN the schools when you left wing whack-jobs decided the only way to convince Americans that our rights come from the government is to get rid of God.
First,I am not a libertarian. Ferny is mistaken. EACH state IS sovereign. The states are as foreign countries to the Federal Government. The Fed’s do not want you to know that. To be legal and constitutional a Federal agency must go to the local sheriff to obtain permission to “work” within his county. Go to www. paragonfoundation.org
You are ALL wrong. And there is no need for the language. Please read only ONE articel in the US Constitution. Article VI Paragraph 2 This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
I’m sorry but neither one of you has read the entire Constitution. The 10 amendment refers to any law that is NOT mentioned in the Constitution is delegated to the States OR the People.
Flybob, nice try, but that Amendment only pertains to Treadies with other Nations an that any or ALL treadies CANNOT SUPERCEDE THE CONSTITUTION….
As for the lefties an their hard on for the BS of seperation of Church an State, find it in the Constitution where it says it…because it is NOT in there.
Ferny, you need to reverse that, ALL states trump federal laws…here is an example that may open your eyes, an you can research it as well….ie; AZ CAN by the Constitution declare war on Mexico with or without CONgressional approval. Why, because it is considered an Invasion an if the fed gov refuses to uphold the law(s), its the states job to protect its people. The states are suppose to be the brick wall to protect the people from the tryanny of the federal government…
Kim I’m sorry but either you are mistaken accidentally or you cannot read. Article VI is NOT an amendment, it is the body of the Constitution and is meant to make sure no state can make ANY law OR include in their Constitution of their respective state any ideal that is contrary with the general rules set forth by the US Constitution. That is to include treaties. If the US enters into ANY treaty with ANY other country then THEY have to accept the US Constitution as their law of the land. You obviously did not read the text which I included the body of my reply. If you are NOT supportive of the Constitution you need to either take the steps to amend(it aint easy for a reason) or leave the country and go to a place where they have the rules you prefer. Trying to change america is UN-AMERICAN in itself or treason to the Constitution and our people. Much like our president(fraud in chief). Love your country or please exercise another right you have……leave it
In a letter to Congress; Jefferson wrote the phrase “Separation of Church and State”. His intend was to protect religion from government, not the other way around…Now government is intent on infringing on the religious beliefs of all Americans in an effort to destroy our pillar of strength in the Christian religion!
Dude, you give me a headache with the BS you are spewing out. BTW, the other Nations we sign Treadies with, only have to abide by THE TREADY, not our Constitution. Ummm, law of the land does NOT apply to the world or other Nations, it is only for this Country!!
BTW again, Article VI, Paragraph 2 is not the 10th Amendemnt to the Constitution, that is what the article is talking about.
If you don’t know what 10 looks like in roman num, it is an X……
The reason someone might be confused about State sovereignty could be due to the fact that no one challenges the feds on these issues. The feds have made all kinds of statutes, rules and regulations that are in conflict with the supreme law. These courts are a scam that prey on people to generate revenue. Volumes and volumes of “hindrances”, are authored and laid against the people to encroach on their freedoms. These encroachment are presented to us in the “color of law” but in actuality are no law at all. The attorneys are given procedures in which to abide by but no challenges to whether charges are constitutional usually arise because they are playing the game as officers of the court. We could clean-up a lot of courts if we simply remove the authority of the judges and force them to be referees as they should be and let people have access to JURIES. The biggest criminals in this nation are JUDGES. When the sheriffs of counties allow the feds to feast on the people he has sworn to protect he would be equally as guilty of the infringement as the low-life’s that issued the false warrant. I encourage everyone to stand behind a sheriff that stands up for his electors. Maybe one day we could possibly get a few freedoms back. Thanks sheriff. Remember Mr. Young a real judge would be on the look-out for any stealthy encroachments on the rights of people in his court. The judges we have today are mostly arrogant trash. The federal government was merely the “federation” of states there was no IRS there was no FBI. The FED doesn’t trump a damn thing, unless you let them. This sheriff was 100 percent correct in defending his people against these encroachments. Oh, and Mr. Young, The sheriff is the highest ranking official in every county. The only reason the Feds are more than a figment of our imagination is because of sheriffs that are more worried about being on the federal tit than being a sheriff. God Bless real lawmen. God Damn the phonies.
States seldom challenge the feds these days, because that last serious attempt (in 1861) ended badly.
You are correct sir! LOL… just glad to see some one acknowledge the fact that states rights was what that war was really all about….
I’d say the War Of Northern Aggression wasn’t a total loss. Thinned out them damn yankees a bit. Not only that, but it showed the truth behind the fiction of the state.
I highly recommend Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged” to show how our country is going down the path of ultimate self destruction.
Ferny Reyes:
Read Art. VI of the Constitution:
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made IN PURSUANCE THEREOF; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
For those who can’t read: Federal law “trumps” state law only if it is made IN PURSUANCE of the Constitution. It does not say “in violation of the Constitution”. This includes (supreme court) judge-made law.
I rest my case.
it would be interesting to here FERNY’s response to that slam dunk,,,, which is also why when the feds decide they want to disarm Americans the sheriff can disarm the feds when they enter his county,, we need a lot of conservative tea party types as sheriff and they need to have regular meetings reaffirming their knowledge on their authority
Alex, does it say anywhere in the Constitution that say’s anything We the Federal Government???? Ummm, nope, its We the People, we the people retained more power over the state an the federal guberment, they WORK FOR WE THE PEOPLE. The 1787 We the Peoples Constitution canNOT be trumped by any federal law(s). The Constitution, is strict guidelines, laws an rules for how the federal government is to be run…If you truely know what the Constitution says, you would know, that the Amendment you just quoited, pertains to Treadies with other Nations an that NO tready can supercede the Constitution..Oh, BTW, no Supreme Court Justice has a life term. They can be recalled, they can be fired. And another thing, the Supreme Court canNOT make laws, they can ONLY interpet them..
BTW Alex, Art VI of the Constitution, well, the states can trump that. If a tready is deemed “harmful” to the people an states an the CONgress refuse to repeal, the states have the power to repeal that tready…In other words, states can trump federal law(s)….an Treadies….
This is a good piece. Too bad more won’t follow the good sheriff’s example. The reason a lot of people believe that the fed “trumps” the states is because they can (if you let them!). It should be no mystery that this government is totally corrupt and complicit. When these thugs operate in various states they have the “tacit” approval of the local authority.
The local authority DOES have the right to throw them out but they don’t. It’s a rigged game. The problem is “we the people” are the defacto losers. Most of these local officials are as corrupt as their “heroes” in D.C..
Now, parties like the Libertarians have a chance to do some real good locally. Running candidates that are honorable and genuinely a choice from the standard mutts is a real chance to take back control. They take our money and use it against us. Why do we let them?
Clearly the head parasites federally couldn’t care less what we think. Locally it could be a different story. If people take the time and put in the effort to control their destinies locally the future could be something to look forward to. If we continue to act like ‘victims’ it will be a self-fullfilling prophecy.
I’m moving to Wyoming to support my local sheriff
We’ll welcome ya!
I was listening to Jack Blood today on radio, gcnlive, and he had on excellent guest, Sheriff Richard Mack. Sheriff Mack is definitely a Ron Paul supporter and of course like all of us he wishes Ron Paul was the head of the pack on the republican nomination. And now to further strengthen the Ron Paul liberty rEVOLution he is promoting the education of all County sheriffs (and those that work for these sheriffs) with respect to knowing the constitution especially the 10th amendment. I believe he actually gives classes on this very thing.
His email address is sheriffmack@hotmail.com to get more information.
Mack really knows his stuff.
We should all call up our sheriffs and tell them about this amendment and when we vote for County Sheriffs we should make sure that they will uphold the 10th amendment and even take classes from Sheriff Mack to know their full rights against a overpowering federal government.
Sheriff Richard Mack’s website:
Constitutional Law Enforcement Association The Last Line of Defense
http://constitutionallawenforcementassoc.blogspot.com/
He has written an article entitled:
The County Sheriff – the ultimate check and balance
It talks about the tenth amendment of the constitution. This is an extremely important amendment because it delineates what the federal govt rights are and what the state and individual citizen rights are.
Here are some highlights but I REALLY RECOMMEND READING THE ENTIRE ARTICLE since nearly every sentence is a GOLD NUGGET !!!!!!!
Most of the unbelievers [unbelieving sheriffs], who themselves have taken a solemn oath to “uphold and defend” the U S Constitution, will passionately and even apologetically exclaim that they have no authority or jurisdiction to tell federal agents to do anything, let alone stop them from victimizing local citizens. The truth and stark reality is that it’s just the opposite; the sheriff has ultimate authority and law enforcement power within his jurisdiction. He is to protect and defend his citizens from all enemies, both “foreign and domestic.”
The point remains, if any abuse occurs in your county by federal officials; does your sheriff have the guts and the authority to protect and defend you? Does that question not sound redundant? Is he not bound by oath to do just that?
Yes, he has the right and the duty to do so. In Mack/Printz v USA, the U S Supreme Court declared that the states or their political subdivisions, “are not subject to federal direction.”
The sheriffs sued the USA (Clinton adm.) and won a major landmark case in favor of States’ Rights and local autonomy. In this ruling by the Supreme Court, some amazing principles were exposed regarding the lack of power and authority the federal government actually has. In fact, this is exactly the issue addressed by the court when Justice Scalia opined for the majority stating, “…the Constitution’s conferral upon Congress of not all governmental powers, but only discreet, enumerated ones.”
Scalia then quotes the basis of the sheriffs’ suit in quoting the Tenth Amendment which affirms the limited powers doctrine, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution…are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
Thus, the federal government has no more authority to compel the states or the counties to do anything, no more so than the Prime Minister of Canada has.
I rest my case.
Way to go sheriff, it is about time someone stood up to the scumbag, lowlife ,Government.They(and I include FBI,IRS, CIA,and most all other Government operatives)are the most CORRUPT,CROOKED,CRIMINAL ELEMENT in the United States and YES they violate our constitutional rights on a daily basis
Actually, the Feds have very little jurisdiction in a State. ONLY when the state Cedes property to the fed does the fed have jurisdiction in that area. I know you all will come up with a thousand examples of why this would be false, but unless you read the linked legal brief on Federal Jurisdiction, you can’t really argue the point. Why is it some states have helmet laws and others don’t? It’s a mandate not enforceable by the feds, so they hold back highway funds as blackmail. Arizona has no helmet law, as other states I am sure.
Read the jurisdiction legal brief.
http://oldsecretsandlies.blogspot.com/2008/01/legal-brief-on-federal-jurisdiction.html
One of the chief problems in the U.S. is that the Federal government has been acting in a manner over the past 50 years that makes the constitution completely negligable. It all started with Executive Orders. There IS no provision in the constitution for Executive Orders. But ever since they started issuing them under the guise of “National Security” (which is really just a non-official cover that allows the Federal Government to engage in criminal activity), this trend towards shirking constitutional responsibility and public accountability has continued to grow to uncontrolable levels. But it always HAS been law that the Sheriff IS the highest law enforcement official in each country, which DOES supercede any Federal authority. But not even all SHERIFFS know this, and many have allowed themselves to be bullied by Federal authorities. Yet, I’ve seen it happen where sheriffs DO give the Feds the boot from time to time.
ooops… COUNTY… not country
Here’s a man to add to your list of Ron Paul Republicans. He’s a great man for the job!
http://steven2008.com/
A state is a sovereign state if it has the ability to be. Rights come from ability, not from law.
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We need the sheriff and his posse in Congress.
Maybe they could deal with the Zionist Israelis who seem to have more power than our traitorous Congress people.
So when are the Wyoming Sheriffs going to arrest that idiotic Constitution killer in Casper Wyoming? Y’all know who I am talking about.
First, let’s be careful to keep in mind those powers that are truly the Fed’s and those which are the states’. Don’t go getting yourselves chot up defending a power you don’t have.
Second, a major reason for the confusion among the public (and the state officials, I’ll wager) is Hollywood. Have you ever seen a movie where the Fed didn’t ride roughshod over the locals?
Nope. Now, I’m not one to blame Hollywood for anything, but this sort of misrepresentation seeps into the consciousness after so many decades.
Here’s hoping the Good Sheriff’s education campaign spreads – and that TPTB don’t take him out.
Cheers
shot up… lordy….
Enemy Number One: Zionist, Dual-Citizen Israeli’s. Shoot to kill. Period.
The lie they have been using to take your rights
http://patriotsquestion911.com
More power to Wyomong! Wouldn`t it be nice if this were a precedent for the brainwashed, clueless people of the good ol` usa to wake up and reclaim their country? One can only hope.
And I 2nd what Guess What says. I`m glad to see there are still a few people in your land that actually have a clue and see what`s transpiring. And you folks might want to practice your 2nd amendment rights while you still can. Buy as many guns and rifles and ammunition as you can while you can. Learn basic shooting and gun handling skills-just in case you ever need it. Your founding fathers would be proud of you.
It is uplifting to see there are still some who understand many of the wrongs brought on by a mofia Government. The irs was invented illegally I might add by what is called the federal reserve which is no more part of the Government than the federal express. Its a banking cartel no different than the mofia. These internationalist made this happen in 1913 and imposed a illegal tax on the people to pay for the illegal government borrowings. The irs is just as illegal as the fed. As some have stated we are controlled by zog, and as long as they have complete control of all communications they can accomplish all their agendas!
If a state can not be soveriegn then why can no one be sued in North Carolina. It is a soveriegn state thats why.
We are challenging the federal laws and winning pre-arraignment. These documents can be tailored to fit any victimless crimes, they are free at
http://www.brothersformercy.org
Can’t seem to find this case.
If anyone has a citation for it and could email it to me, I’d appreciate it very much.
Liberty & Justice,
SJ
http://www.spartacusjones.com
Great job Wyoming!
Glad to see someone has read the 10th Amendment.
Dead Eye is an Agent of Old Europe.
The Shrub is a direct descendant of
Old European Aristocracy threw his Mom.
Ever wonder why, he is such a pompous A-s hole?
European spanker’s rule America now.
Threw their Corpirate Shell Companies.
Slash, Burn and Pillaging America.
they are always ready to flee at a moments notice.
Where were they all on 911?
Standing at the exits.
Just in case the Cu was stopped or discovered.
Georgie was hiding in Florida ready to
Fly the coup.
We fought and won a War of independence from
King George III
and now we are being ruined by
his direct descendant:
King George II
How clueless are the American Sheeple?
(wipes tear of happiness from her eye, sniff)
Good on Wyoming, if for no other reason except to bring to the public eye what has been done to our (former) republic by elitists who dumped their revolutionary and civil war debts on We the People.
Come on: The central bankers control the world via war debt. They did it yesterday and they do it today. Ever since America defaulted on its war loans we’ve been taking it up the arse from the Crown and the Vatican, who literally OWN us. We were repossessed, like a car.
In the late 1800s Congress CHANGED the Constitution for the United States of America to the Constitution of THE UNITED STATES (note all caps, it’s a legal distinction) which is not a land mass but a corporation based out of Washington D.C.. We the People are not a party to this Constitution unless we are a part of the Federal machine (DC residents and employees,including residents on Federal property such as the military).
There’s a reason we don’t learn about the Civil War RECONSTRUCTION in school. They don’t want us to know just how badly we were fecked over, and they DON’T want us to know we’re still sovereign. It’s a total mindf*ck. We stopped being a Republic after the Civil War. The UNITED STATES operates under “guilty until proven innocent” maritime law and YOU are a “vessel:” http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00000007—-000-.html
TITLE 28 – JUDICIARY AND JUDICIAL PROCEDURE”> TITLE 28 > PART VI > CHAPTER 176 > SUBCHAPTER A > § 3002
§ 3002. Definitions
As used in this chapter:
(14) “State” means any of the several States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas, or any territory or possession of the United States.
(15) “United States” means—
(A) a Federal corporation;
(B) an agency, department, commission, board, or other entity of the United States; or
(C) an instrumentality of the United States.
(PS: The next time you need to SWEAR on something . . . )
§ 1746. Unsworn declarations under penalty of perjury
Wherever, under any law of the United States or under any rule, regulation, order, or requirement made pursuant to law, any matter is required or permitted to be supported, evidenced, established, or proved by the sworn declaration, verification, certificate, statement, oath, or affidavit, in writing of the person making the same (other than a deposition, or an oath of office, or an oath required to be taken before a specified official other than a notary public), such matter may, with like force and effect, be supported, evidenced, established, or proved by the unsworn declaration, certificate, verification, or statement, in writing of such person which is subscribed by him, as true under penalty of perjury, and dated, in substantially the following form:
(1) If executed without the United States: “I declare (or certify, verify, or state) under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on (date). (Signature)”.
(2) If executed within the United States, its territories, possessions, or commonwealths: “I declare (or certify, verify, or state) under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on (date). (Signature)”.
(So WHERE, pray tell, is the ORIGINAL Constitution? Your guess is as good as mine. I wonder what’s in it? Welcome to the Rabbit Hole: It’s a labryinth.)
@Hedonisticpleasureseeker, if you want to read the true Origanl Organic 1787 We the Peoples Constitution, just look it up as i did. Its there ( i think) just put in your search The Constitution for the united states of America. By the grace of God, even the 13th Amendment is still there. When CONgress signed the Act of 1871, they throw the orignal Constitution into a dusty little corner an after Act was signed, it laid dormant the orignal form of Constitutional Government. But, there is a way to change that, just need people that know this history an have the balls to do something about it. It can be done by De Jure, Grand Juries, we have the right an we have the power to do it is just getting people to do it..To convene a Grand Jury, it falls on the Magna Carta 1215=Magna Carta Liberatum, the Great Charter of Freedoms..Thats how we get our power to convene a Grand Jury.
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This is the Dun and Bradstreet info on the Executive Office, just in case there is any question! Wish we didn’t have to BUY the info to see it.
I reside in Massachusetts and have sent this article to all the Sheriffs departments throughout this state, with hopes that they will know their authority and exercise it. Great job Wyoming!
I heard that Karl Rove has opined that this may the thin edge of the wedge – the only advantage he sees is that Wyoming is only a backwards and insignificant state.
Disband the zionist leech masquerading as our federal government.
Burn washington to the ground and salt the earth and cordon it off as a memorial to treason.
Return to state rule and local economies.
We will have america again at that point, instead of this Israeli ruled slave nation
Let’s not forget. If you want a Class 3 weapon the ATF requires “local” law enforcement approval. This is furthur recognition of local authority raining supreme.
Jason
Alex Wallenwein, you are referring to the United States, which is a federal corporation made up of federal jurisdiction States (notice the capitalization), DC, the outer laying US territories. This suit was in regards to the state of Wyoming (no capitalization), not the State of Wyoming.
The states are different from the States.
They deliberately make it confusing by obfuscating the situation with legal lingo.
There is a disgusting overlay of federal jurisdiction that has suffocated the individual states of the Union. It impedes, it controls, it taxes.
And it deceives. With regard to the states, they indeed ARE foreign in relation to the federal government but the States are not.
Under the constitution the organic states are sovereign and the sheriff is a constitutional common law officer who is to protect the people. The corporate states are overlaid upon the sovereign states so no one really knows the difference. Under this commercial (debt) system there are no common law officers left except the sheriff.
The major problem with this is that most local governments – and by “local” I mean State, County, and City – have become totally federalized by virtue of agreements which they have signed with the Feds… agreements made for the sole purpose of receiving “grant” money… which is universally either money that has just been created out of nothing by the “Federal” Reserve Bank system or been extorted from the Local citizens in the form of various taxes and fees.
Some of you may be old enough to remember – and those who aren’t can go look it up – but such things as the Seatbelt laws, “breathalyzer” laws, old 55-MPH speed limit, and 21-years-old drinking age were all forced on the states by the Fed threatenting to withhold highway “fund” money if the states refused – money which came from the gas-buying citizens in the first place. Now, in addition to those sorts of things, we have nearly every law enforcement agency (and other public) agencies receiving Fed money grants and signing over sovereignty as they suck at the Federal teat. Tell the sheriff to tell the Feds to f*ck off, and he’ll probably tell you he’d have to fire half his people, and he can’t fire the jailers, because of all the criminals (most of them federal inmates) in the County Jail.
Rock. Hard place. What next?
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States seldom challenge the feds these days, because that last serious attempt (in 1861) ended badly.
It’s not just this. The Feds provide a great deal of money to local law enforcement, much of it from the specific agencies mentioned in the article to essentially bribe the local law for their support and cooperation through various joint enforcement programs.
Dave
wow i wished i live there , local authorities standing up for local people . wow!
That sheriff deserves good things and good will towards him. As the even flow goes.
Good job this is the America everyone loves.
Wyoming sheriffs put feds in their place | politikly.com
\r\nCounty sheriffs in Wyoming are demanding that federal agents actually abide by the Constitution,
As one who enforced the law, not as a lawyer but rather as a Cop, I can advise that there is a pecking order to the priority of legal statutes. On a topic of overlapping statutes, local Municipal or County Ordinances are superceeded by State Law. State Law is superceeded by Federal Law. As a City Police Officer, I primarily enforced Municipal and State Law, but on occasion did get into arrests for Federal Law, primarily in the area of Narcotics and Firearms violations. The Court ruling referenced is only one Judge, likely a local guy giving his biased opinion. As anyone who has worked with the Feds can tell you, most are good to work with and many have been local Cops themselves before moving on to the big time. There are also some bad ones out there, just like there are a few bad local Officers. The first Sheriff in Wyoming who tries to arrest a Federal Agent or intefere with their investigation will get hit with a ton of bricks. All Federal aid and financial support to that County will be cut and the U.S. Marshals Service will be there in a blink of an eye to release the Federal Agent and arrest the Sheriff for Obstruction of Justice. In these times of heightened security due to Homeland Security issues, I wouldn’t want to be the Sheriff who tries running into the brick wall head on. States rights only go so far. Let’s see what happens as this matter moves up the judicial chain to the Court of Appeals and Supreme Court.
Thetruth Says: Disband the zionist leech masquerading as our federal government. Burn washington to the ground and salt the earth and cordon it off as a memorial to treason. Return to state rule and local economies. We will have america again at that point, instead of this Israeli ruled slave nation
Spoken like the Nazi skinhead you likely are. I bet you wake up every morning an give a Seig Heil to your hero Adolph Hitler. You are a pitiful excuse for a human being, just as was Adolph. Sorry to be the one to break the bad news to you skinhead, but your time has come and gone.
>RE: Patrick Says:
>March 31, 2008 at 12:24 pm
>As one who enforced the law, not as a lawyer but >rather as a Cop…………
Snipped for being pure drivel.
Don’t you have some jack-boots that you should be licking? Take your BS elsewhere. Freedom loving Americans don’t want, nor do they need it.
Well, come on now, don’t blame the israelis—most people who don’t own land and don’t care to work benefit from limited liability existence as a person instead of full liability existence as a man.
We have no one but ourselves to blame—IMO scapegoating the “ZOG”/Israelis only makes you look paranoid and ridiculous. It’s a lot easier to blame a conspiracy of others than your own neighbours who’d rather drink a six pack and watch sports every night than read their constitution.
It stops as soon as we want it to stop—the question, really, is “who are we?”
“Furthermore, this judge is incorrect. A state is not a soverign state. That has been derailed constantly for the last hundred years.”
As the right of succession has not been revoked, (the civil war did not resolve that issue) I would suggest that any state can override federal law by the mere fact that it can legally remove itself from the Union. Nowhere in the constitution does it grant or PROHIBIT the right of the states to succeed. The 10th amendment clearly states that all rights not specifically granted the federal government, nor specifically denied to the states, shall be maintained by the states.
Therefore we must conclude every state is sovereign and has right to self governance without interference from the federal government, if it so chooses.
Nice to see there are still a few good cops out there.
Most of us are living in a twisted mafia and crooked cop nightmare, where instead of going after the criminals the cops are working in tandem with them to rob you of your property. Criminals with badges are the worst kind of criminals because they have a license to get away with anything.
Patrick ,
I do not know enough about the law to argue any case , it does seem reasonable what you put forth . I do hope however that the judge and Sheriff are correct .
Many of us not involved in the , or empolyied by the goverment have come to feel very , very nervous about what has really happened both real and imagined to our rights , and what has happened to our goverment these last 8 yrs in general , being ( or having been )in law enforcement , I would like to hear your take on what seems to be a police state in the making .
No insult intended or implyied , because you also have rights and have lost them , along with all other Amercians .
I heard from one source this story of Sheriff Mattis was overblown into urban legend…I was going to publish it in my newsletter until I could not get any response from anyone involved, neither the sheriff, nor the article author, nor the management of the publication…anyone tried to verify the case number or verify anything else about this story?
It is good to see some good coming out of a bad fed govt. that just keeps getting worse. You only mentioned one sheriff. I know of another and he is in Albany Co., and he isn’t much good in my mind. I had a theft, and he wouldn’t even answer my complaint. When he was enjouned in a suit, he got the AG to send responses, but Pond never even answered. We have a lot of bad ones in a so called authority, who think they are the masters and not the servants
“Ferny Reyes Says:
February 20, 2007 at 9:48 am
Interesting. Ultimately, it’s a decision that will most likely be overturned. Federal law trumps state law, this is a basic fact of federalism. It’s only limitation is on actions that only the state can have.
Furthermore, this judge is incorrect. A state is not a soverign (sic) state. That has been derailed constantly for the last hundred years.”
What?! a state is not a sovereign state?! Federal law trumps state law?! You obviously have ZERO knowledge about which you speak. Federal law trumps state law ONLY insofar as the states have “delegated” the subject matter to the Feds. I.e. Federal questions are entertained under Federal rules. Furthermore, erroneous decisions are just that “erroneous.” I.e. any law repugnant to the constitution is a void law. And what’s more, since when do the courts “make” law? If Federal law trumps state law, show the “constitutional” amendment repealing the Amendment X.
Do some research besides looking in the “everybody knows” code. Embarrassing.
Try this on for size…the reality is that federal government and all its statute laws only have jurisdiction in federal territories. This means not only do they not “trump” state law, they have no jurisdiction over most Americans, period…that is unless you happen to reside in federal territory. Who lives on federal land? Federal employees. Guess what, they are subject to federal law but we are not. Congress makes laws for its members’ and it applies to them and their fellow federal officer’s. These federal employees are required by their own laws to file and pay taxes, YOU ARE NOT A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE SO YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY LEGAL DUTY NOR ANY OBLIGATION TO FILE AND PAY INCOME TAX! The Sheriff is our friend and should be applauded for doing the right thing. I love it!
By the way, we need to elect a president of the United States of America instead of what we have had for the past 200+ years. What we have had and currently have is a president of the United States. That’s right, take a look at the presidential seal and everything associated with the executive office. The words “of America” do not appear anywhere….except in the US Constitution. Hmmmm, I wonder why? Could it be there are more than one president in the constitution? I am so glad you asked that! Why YES, in fact the president of the United States of America takes an oath to SUPPORT AND AFFIRM the US Constitution. the president of the United States takes a different oath. We have all heard this oath which the president of the United States takes infront of the entire world. That is that he (or she in the case of Hillary) takes an oath to “preserve, defend and protect” the US Constitution. Hmmmm, those words have very different definitions and therefore mean completely different things. Check it out in ANY full copy of the US Constitution. Read Article one sections 1 and 2 about the president of the United States. Then read on about the president of the United states of America. Article 6 (VI) defines the oath that the president of the United States of America and you should read it for yourself. Discover the truth and it will set us all free!
where I agree with Patrick is that not all Federal agents are bad, and like others i don’t know a lot about the micro specific of your laws so i can’t comment on the pure legality of the matter, but What i do believe is that Local authorities should be able to protect Local individuals in their jurisdiction AGAINST the other guys you were talking about Patrick.
That is essentially the legal point is it not?
When normal Americans don’t feel represented by their federal government any longer and trust has lost its way a local friend or a community is all one has.
do they not?
And I don’t believe I am underestimating the general feeling there.
And that is not a stab at the US government or President as such so more as the Corporation that administers it.
disagree?
The US Constitution is above everything and it is up to each individual American citizen to uphold it. That is why minutemen and patriots exist and we still have the constitutional right to have arms and carry out citezen’s arrest in case anybody violates our Constitution.
Freedom ringer, while this may be true, if you LIVE in a federal jurisdiction, they consider you privy to federal jurisdiction.
There is one big country here, the United States – it is a created corporation and under the direct control of the federal government; and the united states of America (note the small letters on united and states) – a compilation of all the states of the Union.
The feds did this so their color of law could be applied across the nation.
You need to live as if you are a citizen of your SPECIFIC STATE, not a U.S. Citizen, because the latter tells the government that you are a federal citizen residing in the federal territories, rather than a U.S. National, which would be someone who is a citizen of a specific state (like Illinois or Wyoming) and because of that, is a national of the United States but not a U.S. Citizen.
It’s simple because a jurisdiction is fully A CHOICE. They cannot force you to be a U.S federal Citizen, the one that is subjected to the whims of the US federal government.
Use of a zip code is also a way of identifying you as a federal citizen. The zip code was actually created by the IRS for zoning purposes and then adopted by the federal government (because all criminals need a partner in crime) to determine who is a Citizen since the IRS can only tax U.S. CITIZENS and not nationals or specific state citizens.
If you open mail to someone with your name (except perhaps all capitals in your name) and zip code, you are accepting that you live in a federal IRS zone.
The problem is the local, county and state governments make it difficult for you to pursue your true citizenship.
Keep in mind that there are at all times two states – one is a federal jurisdiction state that is the State of Wyoming; and the other is the state in which you were born, the state of Wyoming or Wyoming state.
You live in the united states of America, not the United States of America, for the latter is a federal jurisdiction and well, as a real person, born naturally, how can you be “owned” or a Citizen of a corporation??
Sharp, your half way right. But, really zip codes only are part of the corporation ownership, (slaves) game. Back in the early 1930’s, when the Country, err, government went broke again,,,, the states were then forced to push the law to where every birth has to be recorded an issue of a Birth-cert, Social Security Cards an yes, marraige Lic’s, if you have noticed that them items are printed on bank notes. We at that time an still are to this day, we are numbered cattle (slaves) as you will, we are collateral to the banks. Even the deed to your homes say’s occupant, not owner. As for the corporation ownership of a soverign people, when anyone signs an checks the box that askes if you are a US Citizen, you are now the property of the US Corporation an no longer soverign, an your name becomes all capital letters. There are 2 America’s, one is the orignal, “soverign” states an the other is the District of Columbia, an there are 2 Constitutions, one the 1787 Orignal Organic We the Peoples Constitution, an the other, is,,,,,a US Corporation Patient, it is NOT a Constitution! an to know which is which, the Corp patient is in all capital letters ie; THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, the real Constitution,ie; The Constitution for the united states of America. There is no 2 states in a state, its either soverign or is with the corporation. Case in point, Cali, NY, Detroit, IL are the biggest corp states. The other states that are corp, are the ones that still issue Birth-certs, Social Security cards…I haven’t checked into it lately, but i think MA is the only state that does not require to issue birth-certs an SS Cards, that makes them a soverign state.
When one goes into a courtroom, you will notice several things, 1 the flag is in Gold trim, which means international, 2, once you pass the little wooden gates, you lost ALL Constitutional rights, for the courts go by corporate laws(Social Justice), not Common Laws.
Anyone know if it is true that the only law man that can arrest the President of the United Status is a US Marshall?
If so, would someone tell GWB that he needs to go to Wyoming!
We are going into the information age. We have hundreds of years of history to look at and decide on how we want to be governed. The ones who live in the past and think they can have Power over another is long dead. Bush sealed his and and his fathers records big deal we will just vote to unseal them. The Power has always been the Peoples the information age gives them the Power. The meak shall inheart the earth.
case in point. All companys who pea test there employees we will make a law saying all top manegment has to be pee tested and if they come up dirty they lose there job and can never work in management again. it is called Freedom how dare you use economics to f*&% with our freedom! Becarefull when you kick the beast you may end up in it belly., ed
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I’m on my way to Wyoming. Finally a state with some balls.
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Constitutionally State has power above federal read 10 ammendment. This is a great step and finally a sherif with balls! I am in LOVE! How do you get added to your list of Ron Paul republicans? I am running in Oregon!
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Interesting…
Sheriff Richard Mack has been pushing for all sheriffs to be educated about the tenth amendment and follow it and to have all citizens elect their sheriff based on whether they will follow the tenth amendment or not.
Sheriff Richard Mack’s website:
Constitutional Law Enforcement Association The Last Line of Defense
http://constitutionallawenforcementassoc.blogspot.com/
He has written an article entitled on his main website page:
The County Sheriff – the ultimate check and balance
Read his article. Very similar to this article about wyoming sheriffs putting feds in their place !!!
His email address is sheriffmack@hotmail.com to get more information.
Anyone who can read the U.S. Constitution will applaud the Sheriffs of Wyoming. The plain English of the Constitution was once the supreme law of the land.
The problem WE THE PEOPLE have had and still have is a Constitutional illiteracy rate of more than 50%. In fact a local school principal was bet $1000 dollars if she could pass a test on the plain text of the Constitution and she declined saying that she didn’t think she could pass such a test. Sad it is after all the billions of tax dollars to teach children that teachers are the only one’s who can lawfully strike while students are feed by force.
Since knowledge is power and Constitutional illiteracy destroys knowledge of Constitutional content, unconstitutional power trumps constitutional right.
If 50% of the voters could and/or would read the plain English of the Constitution this once great nation would be alive and well. Then the school would once again be part of an economical system of education and not an expensive system of indoctrination.
Unified literate people are the ultimate constitutional power that those using unconstitutional power fear. That has been repeatedly demonstrated by the unconstitutional use of federal law enforcement and is why the military is so strong today at taxpayers unconstitutional expense. The expensive military might of this nation has nothing to do with the rights of people in a foreign land.
Americans have long since been convinced by the Federal Government that the individual citizen is under the control of Federal authority.
This is not totally accurate. While Americans have “given” the government jurisdiction over certain areas of law, that power is not absolute and may be recindered by those allowing that transfer of authority.
“We the People” trumps “We the Government.” No Federal Agency has authority other than that “given” by the people.
The United States Constitution in it’s truest form reserves all Rights to the American People. The one missing piece to this discussion is simply the lack of current Americans understanding and commitment to the original premise of our Founding Fathers.
Americans, both individually and collectively are a free and self-regulated society forming one entity for securing self-determination. That self-determination only remains intact if Americans are once again instructed in the true interpretation of the American Constitution and its Declaration of Independance.
We met with our sheriff here in Kansaa about a possible IRS seizure & what his duties were. We asked for his protection as he was the highest elected official in our county if the seiaure were to occur. He was very aware of the situation as we met with him 3 times. The day of the seizure the sheriff was there assisting the IRS agents & US marshals. We could not believe it because he had been told. We had filed for bankruptcy before the seizure & it was stopped, but none-the -less the sheriff was there. Now all the property has been sold & we are left with nothing because of a negligent sheriff. What can we do? I am so disillusioned with these people(sheriffs) because they know but fail to do even when they know better. The federal money is a big deal to keep them captive. Destroy the FED & our problems are solved…………………..
GREAT NEWS! MAYBE MAINE WILL FOLLOW SUIT.
Public Law 97-280 signed by Ronald Reagan in 1983 states that we should read the Bible every day and “APPLY IT’S TEACHING TO OUR DAILY LIVES.” The book of Numbers in the Bible states in 25:4 THAT WE ARE TO “BRING THE LEADERS OF THE PEOPLE BEFORE ME AND SLAY THEM IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.” Let’s get on with it. Poiticians are garbage. We have the Bible and their law to back it up.
this is a terrific decision and, its constitutional!??! wow, think of that. i’m stunned!
since real “money” does not exist common law is essentially non-existent. everything is commerce. no criminal or civil law genereally it is commerce-criminal
or commerece-civil.
just look at the caption on any court document, supeona, “criminal” complaint, mortgage, title-deed, motor-“vehicle” cert. of title/registration. the “names” are always in all capital letters=legal fictions. creations of the law. the law itself is also a created fiction [color of law] everything related to any government in its municipal operation is a FICTION!
YOU CANNOT ACCESS COMMON-LAW WHERE REAL MONEY[GOLD & SILVER] DOES NOT EXIST! if there is no “money” a debt cannot be PAID IN FULL. debts are only discharged!
The Federalist Papers [i think its no. 42] explain that the federal government can only interact with “the person(s) of the citizen…” i.e. legal fictions the “ens legis”.
i wonder if the Article 1 court’s decision will stand?
i commend the sheriff for his stand and, i hope and pray the decision stands.
regards to all,
Numbers 6: 24-26
Who was the plant who wrote the first post, saying that States are not sovereign?
Sir, what Federal agency are you covering for?
As someone said to you in a later post, you need a little educating in Constitutional Law.
I want to move to this county!!
I wish that every county Sheriff thought this way.
Our States would be a lot better off.
And BTW, Federal Law NEVER trumps State Law!!!
I was a state legislator when I first heard about this. I had legislative services investigate the truth of this matter because if this were true, it would open up a host of laws that could be written to protect my state of Montana from overreaching federal agencies.
Unfortunately, and with amazement that this myth is still running around the web, here are the facts: First, no court order EVER has been handed down that allows the local Sheriff to kick out federal law enforcement agents. In fact, in this particular case, there was a settlement of sorts. There was no holding by the court, no order, no precedent. In fact, because of Sheriff Mattis’s over reaching explanation of the actual court settlement, the federal judge disposing of this case had to issue a press release re-affirming that if any person, including the Sheriff, attemtpted to prevent a federal law enforcement official from enforcing a federal law in Wyoming, that person would be subject to the penalties provided for in the federal criminal code.
In short, this “case” was not a case per se, and there is no power of any Sheriff to kick-out federal agents. The best the Sheriff can do is not ccoperate with them, and many states have such laws on the books with respect to the Patirot act. Outside of that, this Dave Mattis myth is just that- a myth. Wish it were different.
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It appears that people overlook the fact that the united states of America, Republic, under God, [verified by Declaration of Independence and 50 Constitutions of , We the People, the “unions of the several states”, usA, Republic is the Government “of”, subject to, We the People created by the Founding Fathers, under the Creator which all claim the Devine Creator, as the ruling power over all Government. . The usA is not the UNITED STATES CORPORATION, Democracy of DC, District of Communism, of Socialism, Judaism, Communism, Talmudism, Atheism, Gnotocism, Political Correct-ism, “of”, subject to, “men”,International Elite, Bankers, Corporations, NWO/UN, “of” Satanism. The Constitution “OF the UNITED STATES CORPORATION is not the same Constitution FOR the united states of America, Republic, “of”, subject to, We the People, the Government for the usA, Republic. All 50 states are Sovereign, under the Sovereign Citizens, “of”, subject to their Sovereign, God, the Creator. These Sheriffs have Sovereign power bestowed upon them by their Sovereign citizen electors, who give them authority over all “government/corporations of the US CORPORATION, Democracy. Not the Government and has no Sovereign Law “of” the Constitution By the People, FOR the People, “Of”, subject to, We the People. all the laws/codes, statures, regulations, policies , etc. are worthless with out the Unlawful Federal Marshalls, FBI, Batf, IRS, any “man” with a badge, or an officer “of” the court, “men”. Corporations. All of them, with no Law to support their violations of We the People’s Sovereign Rights and their Sovereign Government. All they have is corporate ‘offocials” with fraudulent badges and judges, backed up by the Pentagon Military, which flies the Martisl Law Flag on their shoulders with the Stars and Stripes in reverse. Why is that? As long as We the People bite into the lies and deceptions, treason against the usA, Republic, of the UNITED STATES CORPORATION, Democracy, “of” “men”, Not Man “of” Christian America, the usA, and forget that we have no “power” of our own. That all power comes from God and His directions on how to use it comes from the Holy Bible, the Law over the Law of the Land, the Constitution FOR We the People, these scumbags who has America beleiving that they are a, the Government, we will be in bondage until Christ returns. Then, the w2orld, these evil “men”, will learn that God is the Master, the deliverer of Pay backs. All evil “men”, none beleivers, Citizen or “citizen” will answer to Him on Judgment Day at the Battle of Armageddon. Life does not start and end in the sewer pit called Washington DC, under “men”. It is all under God. Today is not what really counts. It is Judgment Day where god says, ISA. 13:8, 2/3rds of the Jews will be destroyed before Christ intervenes to save 1/3rd, the Born again beleivers. Stand up fror your Rights. And Remember. The Christian has all the Power of God, in his mouth, “in Jesus’ name.” “I rebuke you”, “I defeat you”, I claim victory over you “men” of Satan and your father “the devil”. John 8:44. “oh ye of little faith”. All that is required is to TRUST and OBEY.
WTH was that all about?
There’s a nutcase in every forum!
“Federal law trumps state law, this is a basic fact of federalism.”
The tenth amendment to the constitution is federal law, and that’s what the court relied on to decide that the sheriff outranks federal officials within his own county.
-jcr
This is actually to protect Dick Cheney from the Feds coming for him after 1/31/09.
both sides need to suck it up and serve the public, we all live a city,county,state and nation..
try setting an example and follow the rules, get along, do the job the right way.
There is a common soluition to the matter at hand and since the Sheriff has a complaint filed in the matter then the Fed must respond and work to resolve and co operate and work in harmony to serve the public interest while keeping in mind that we all pay state and federal taxes that in turn pay your salaries and benefits…So like I say to my children..”sit up, act right, say please and thank you and try not to make such a mess”
GROW UP!
STOP WASTING precious money and precious time.
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I am a reporter in Wyoming, and lived in Big Horn County for 33 years until six years ago, when I moved to the next county. I have known Dave Mattis for many years, and taught English and government to one of his grandsons, and as a reporter, I covered his department for about 2 years. From that perspective, I can say that this post is not completely accurate, and consequently is rather misleading.
It is true that a lawsuit was filed by Sheriff Mattis’ predecessor against BATF. As I remember, the issue was that it constituted an unfunded mandate which Big Horn County (a sparsely populated county) did not have the resources to carry out. It is also true that the courts were sympathetic. But that hardly amounts to kicking the feds out of the county. The BATF has little reason to act in the county, anyway.
Back in 2001, when I was reporting in Big Horn County, inquiries were often received regarding the notion that Dave had adopted a policy “kicking the feds” out of Big Horn County, so I asked him directly about it. In summary, this is what I wrote in an article following that interview.
1. The policy came about, as the result of a raid, not by the BATF or the FBI, but by the INS, which was looking for undocumented aliens. In the course of the raid, which was supported by the Sheriff’s office, a person was taken into custody who was, in fact, a legal immigrant–I don’t remember exactly, but he may even have been a citizen–although his English was limited.
2. The individual in question filed a lawsuit, and the county was one of the defendants. The policy was part of an out-of-court settlement, and was actually negotiated between the plaintiff’s lawyer and a lawyer representing the county’s insurer, who consulted with Dave by phone.
3. All the policy states is that the sheriff will not cooperate with such federal actions unless certain conditions are met. I don’t remember all of them, but they included a condition that the federal agents have an interpreter there and that raids not take place after a certain hour in the evening. Dave told me ran the policy by the FBI agent for this area, and the agent had no problem with it.
4. Subsequently, a newspaper editor from Tennessee called Dave, and when his article appeared, Dave told me (this is a direct quote) “He said things that I did not say.” From that article, which circulated on the internet, the idea that Dave had kicked the Federal government out of the county somehow became popular.
Now admittedly Dave has a libertarian bent, and is of the opinion that county government has the primary power of law enforcement. He and the county assessor once took on the IRS when it subpoened records in a tax case involving property. State law was contradictory on whether the records were sealed, and the assessor said she could not legally turn them over and Dave went along. Neither the county attorney nor the county commissioners sided with them, and would not fund legal action, but anti-government types in the county collected several thousand dollars to fund an attorney who claimed he had never lost a case of this type. In the end, the courts would not support the assessor’s position either, and the case just died. The so-called tax attorney who had never lost a case, provided no apparent help in the lawsuit, and in fact barely showed up, and I am unaware of any further action in the case.
In a sense, this whole notion is illogical, because, in the real world, over 50 percent of Big Horn County is owned by the Federal Government, which is not uncommon in Wyoming, The BLM, the Forest Service, the Bureau of Reclamation and the National Park Service all have a presence in the county and, as a result, some police power. In fact, the Big Horn County Sheriff patrols the National Forest on behalf of the Forest Service, also common in Wyoming. There is, consequently, no way the feds could be kicked out of the county.
Finally, I would note that Dave was defeated in the Republican Primary in 2006 and is now retired. He was a good sheriff overall, and did the county good service in most cases. I always voted for him.
Furthermore, I am not aware that his positions are widespread among the state’s sheriffs, as this post implies.
Finally, a note to those who post comments on this and other blogs. If you have a serious opinion, you should sign your real name, not some cutesy on-line nickname. If you don’t have the courage to put your name on an opinion, you should keep it to yourself.
Don Amend, Powell Wyoming
You may want to go back and study your law books, Rick Maedje.
Regarding your quote:
“… the federal judge disposing of this case had to issue a press release re-affirming that if any person, including the Sheriff, attemtpted to prevent a federal law enforcement official from enforcing a federal law in Wyoming, that person would be subject to the penalties provided for in the federal criminal code.”
I’d like to point out a few misconceptions and errors. Yes, the federal judge was correct in saying that a “person” cannot prevent a federal law enforcement official from enforcing a federal “rule” in Wyoming because a “person” is a legal name for an artificial entity and artificial entities have no rights under the U.S. corporation.
HOWEVER, a live flesh-and-blood man or woman is not an artificial entity and he or she IS sovereign over artificial entities, such as a corporation and over corporate rules that the U.S. corporation calls “codes” or “resolutions”. And, “codes” are not “laws”. The only real federal “law” is that of the Constitution FOR the united states of America. “Codes” are only “color of law” – – rules that U.S. corporation have for its subjects.
I CAN believe that Patrick doesn’t understand this because few Americans are ever exposed to the real truth, but Rick, as a former state legislature, I have a hard time believing that you don’t know the difference between laws and resolutions. But then, I know they don’t even want lawyers to know the whole truth about such stuff so maybe you never learned that in school. The only place you can find that kind of info is by digging through law books, law dictionaries and some sites on the internet (try doing a search and reading a while, you’d be surprised).
P.S. Please check out the huge differences in meanings between “state” (uncapitalized) and “State”, between “lawful” and “legal”, between “person” and “man” or “woman” in a legal dictionary such as Bouvier’s Law Dictionary or Black’s Law Dictionary. I believe that one or the other can be found online at Cornell’s law website. Legalese is a whole ‘nother language. You’ll probably have to add a little history research to put two and two together to get the full understanding of the definitions.
Dave, you tryin to confuse people, lol, joking. For the libs that won’t take the time to do research, because of lazyness an the corporation told them they couldn’t. But anyhow, “state” uncapitalized is a soverign state, an the capital “State” is the corporate “State” the District of Columbia…. I would recommend the Black’s Law Dictionary, i find it easier an better explanations..
Dave, i have not seen people admit the one thing thats right in front of them, an even i stopped short of saying it. But i will say it, but i’ll say it this way.
I have heard people talk an say they have watched democracy fail, communism fail, well, the one thing that those that have seen democracy an communism fail, well people, you are actually witnessing democracy failing, in our own Country an they are going to take us down with them.
It all started when CONgress wrote up, voted on it an passed UnConstitutionally an with usurped power Act of 1871, the date was February 21, 1871. The Act titled “An Act to Provide A Government for the District of Columbia” what this act did, it created a seperate form of government….. This was the start, the corporation became a democracy in 1933.
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Article written 2 years 8 months ago… Don’t remember hearing ANYTHING about it in the STATE Controlled (notforlong) MEDIA.
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There’s alot of talk here about wether state sovereignty or federal sovereignty prevails, who knows how the courts will decide, but ultimately it comes down to who has more guns, more men, and more money. That has been the real determination of sovereignty and rule since men first realized that one cave, or one cave woman was more desirable than another, and most humans haven’t evolved past that condition.
To think that men should be free, left alone, and entitled to their own property is simply beyond the mental facilities of most.
Thank you very much for your help, this has been a great relief from the books,
I will first admit that I have not read most of the posts on this subject enumerated here. If I am redundant to any other post already explaining the truth about this subject; then I appologize.
First: The Supremacy Clause in the U.S. Constitution at Article VI, Clause Two and Three states the following. :
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the Laws of the United States which shall be made in the pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
1. “This Constitution” — is the Law of the Land.
2. “and the Laws which shall be made in the pursuance
thereof” — means that all Acts of the Congress and the
State Legislatures must be conformable to the
Constitution in order to be valid.
3. “and Treaties made, — or which shall be made,” only the
President can make Treaties with foreign Nations with
the consent of the Senate.
4. “under the Authority of the United States” —
The States united through the Constitution and agreed
to limited and restricted powers which they enumerated
and delegated to each Branch of the Federal
Government that they created.
They made it clear by the 9th and 10th Amendments
which they called Articles in Amendment of the
Constitution to be part of the Constitution.
These are the only powers in which the
federal Government can enforce, and that is by the
consent of the people. (see the Declaration of
Independence) The States are the power over the
Federal Government and their Senators being chosen by
them are required to keep the House, the Executive and
the Judiciary in check! If the Senators do not, then the
States must recall them. I know; do not tell me about
the 17th Amendment! That is we the people being crass,
Avaricious, cabalistic, ignorant and careless. We have
not done our part to protect our Law to the Government
Servants.
5. “shall be the supreme Law of the Land” —
Both the States,and the federal Government along with
the three Branches of Government are both bound to
the Federal Constitution and any Act of the Legislatures
inconsistant therewith are null and void. (see 16 Am
Jure 2d 256; Norton v. Shelby County; Miranda v.
Arizona and Marbury v. Madison.)
6. “and Judges in every State shall be bound thereby”–
Judges are bound to recognize that any statute
inconsistent with the Constitution is not applicable to
we the people.
7. “any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of the State to
the Contrary notwithstanding.” —
Meaning the entire Constitution, not just parts therein.
It is clear that the States are bound to the Laws of the United States which are clearly decided by the Supreme Court. But the Court cannot interpret the Constitution, only the Acts of the Legislatures to determine the consistency thereof.
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Interestingly enough no one has posted, anywhere that I’m aware of, the full case cite, (title of the actual case), so that one can read that case.
The feds prove that a lot of their laws do not trump state laws by the way they force states to accept them.
example: States have to comply with federal mandated speed limits or blood-acohol levels to determine DUI or lose federal highway money.
Read Art. VI of the Constitution:
“This Constitution, AND the Laws of the United States(plural as in union of several states) which shall be made IN PURSUANCE THEREOF; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States(again plural), shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any state to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
The singular term UNITED STATES was not in existence until the 14th Amendment…
see “Sedition By Syntax” by Ralph Schwann
It warms my heart to see so many constitutionally literate people, which excludes the person who made the first post. It’s about time the agents of the federal government learn their place and understand the limitations of their authority. We threw tea into the water when the British Monarchy tried to make us purchase it against our will. What will we toss overboard when the government tries to make us purchase health insurance against our will?
http://standupamericaus.com/from-willi-greg:21430
I refuse to sit idle while I see my country turn into a Marxist, Socialistic cesspool. Every country that has violated property rights has turned into a Hell Hole and right now if we do not stand for the One thing that has protected our Natural rights for about 233 years……, we will lose the very thing that makes this country worth a damn.
An Open Letter To The President, Congress and Supreme Court:
Sirs and Mesdames:
You have ONE JOB: Your only job is to do one simple thing, You SWORE an Oath to uphold and defend the United States Constitution. That is your only job: HONOR your Oath of Office and Protect and Defend the United States Constitution and defend the Liberty of the People. Anything else you do is inconsequential.
1. Prove the eligibility of Obama by showing a real Birth Certificate with real facts. The one on his website is not the official Birth Certificate.
2. Cease and desist all Co2 and AGW legislation until the Unbiased FACTS are revealed. Do a complete Investigation of Climate Gate.
3. Cease and desist all deliberation on signing any treaty that cedes US Sovereignty: this includes Copenhagen Treaty, Codex Aliminatarius, Health care legislation, Jay Rockefeller’s internet control bill! This is an act of Direct TREASON ON YOUR PART if you or anyone CEDES US Sovereignty to any entity or acts Contrary to the Constitution.
4. CEASE and DESIST all unconstitutional laws that do not fall into Article I section 8 of the US Constitution. You have no authority to legislate on issues not specifically enumerated in the US Constitution.
5. Honor your Oath of office and OBEY Amendment 9 which states: “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others RETAINED by the PEOPLE”.
And Amendment 10 which states: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are RESERVED to the States respectively, or to the People”.
6. Repeal the Patriot act! It is unconstitutional because it violates the bill of rights right down the line. Do I have to remind you that Amendment IV states: The right of the People to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
7. Stay out of FREE SPEECH! Amendment I clearly states: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceable to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”.
8. Complete Audit of the Federal Reserve. The FED is unconstitutional from the start. The genesis of the Federal Reserve was passed with 3 Congressmen in the dark of night. The constitution is very clear who is supposed to have the authority to coin money: CONGRESS! You must STOP making unconstitutional laws.
9. It is not constitutional for you to allow the courts to pass laws according to Article III. You are overburdening the system with bills and laws you KNOW are unconstitutional.
The Constitution does not give authority to you, our government representatives to lie to us and deceive us, nor does it give authority to the government to act without the consent of the people. When government no longer looks out for the best interest of the people, the government ceases to be the rightful, legitimate government, and as such, it is time to abolish the entire government. “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security”.
1. No steel frame buildings had ever before in history collapsed either from fires or planes hitting them. They are designed to withstand those hazards. The Designers of the WTC have gone on record saying the twin towers were “Designed to withstand multiple aircraft impact and not collapse”.On 9/11 three of them fell, and fell perfectly straight down. Why do you think demolition experts spend weeks planting charges and timing the explosions with millisecond precision? To make sure the buildings implode and fall straight down, just as the three WTC towers did. That perfection does not happen by accident. Further, the timing of the falls are indicative of linear controlled demolitions, not accelerating natural gravitational collapse. An engineering failure of this magnitude would normally demand an exhaustive study as to the mechanism of failure to ensure it never happened again, but all the evidence was quickly hauled away and melted down, ensuring the cause was never discovered.
2. The 1/3 sized wheels, turbofan and diffuser found at the Pentagon crash are not part of a 757, but of a much smaller military aircraft the A-3 drone. Two civilian defense contractor employees told to remain silent,say other workers quietly retro-fitted missile and remote control systems onto A-3 jets at Colorado public airport prior to September 11. Bush claims a Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon then vaporized, and that is why there was no wreckage, but that is utterly impossible. The titanium used in the 12 tons of engines does not even melt at temperatures reached by mixing jet fuel and pure oxygen much less vaporize. Think about it. Titanium was chosen for the engines because it would not even weaken when subjected to an optimum mixture of jet fuel and air for hours on end during ordinary flight. Further, there were not even broken windows where the engines purportedly hit the Pentagon. And to top it off, photos show no sign of a fuel fire like the ones hitting the two towers. So, according to Bush, not only did the most of the plane vanish, a mysterious shrinking ray made the wheels and turbofans shrink to 1/3 the normal diameter and change into a type used by A-3 military drones…lol.How dumb does are Government think we are? See the video Loose Change, part 1 and Loose Change, part 2. So it was an A-3 drone that hit the Pentagon. This is so fucking obvious from examining the wreckage.
3. Thermate is a improved and patented variant of Thermite. It is used only by the military. It is used for cutting through steel. Thermate was found on the clean cuts on the steel of the World Trade building rubble…. See More
4. The Pentagon had 80 surveillance cameras operating on 9/11, yet here it is almost 9 years after 9/11 and our Government won’t release the footage of the alleged airliner that hit the Pentagon. Such photos could presumably explain the many anomalies about that event. What are they hiding?
5.The hole in the side of the Pentagon is far too small for Boeing 757 flight 77 to pass through. The wingspan is 124 feet with a fuselage diameter of 13 feet. It is 44 feet from ground to the top of the tail. There was almost no debris, no bodies, no blood, no body parts, no baggage, no wreckage typical of a 757 plane crash, and of course no sheared off wings. Further there was no fire or smoke damage similar to the other two crashes. There should have been. The plane had a similar load of fuel. In contrast, after the shuttle disaster, it was possible to find pieces of the seven astronauts’ bodies spread over hundreds of square miles. Some of the rubble appears to belong to a small Global Hawk drone (44 feet long by 15 feet high) including the tiny engine, including a tiny turbofan engine. The Pentagon blatantly lied in its story published by the Washington Post, saying the hole in the Pentagon was five stories high and 200 feet wide. Photos show it is no bigger than 18 feet in diameter. To fit in that tiny hole the wings had to have been sheared off. Where are the wings? Further the Pentagon crash did not show up seismically, because the object that hit was too light. I will give you some physics people. We know the object that hit the Pentagon was traveling at 400 mph.
The low energy of the hit means the object had to have considerably lower mass than a 757. The other two other hits, including another 757, registered seismically. Whatever hit the Pentagon was not nearly heavy enough to be a 757 as the Bush conspiracy theory claims. This is so obvious, Bush must have know that all along, but decided to lie.
6. See David Griffin’s online lecture. This will give you a brief outline of some of the holes the official story. Griffin has written two books on 9/11.
Fantastic blog, many amusing details. I think 6 of days ago, I have viewed a similar post.
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This article is FOUR years old and it’s currently being posted on Facebook.
@Ferny Reyes
Interesting. Ultimately, it’s a decision that will most likely be overturned. Federal law trumps state law, this is a basic fact of federalism. It’s only limitation is on actions that only the state can have.
Furthermore, this judge is incorrect. A state is not a soverign state.
You are aware that the U.S. Supreme Court, the HIGHEST court in the land has already AFFIRMED what this Federal Judge Ruled. This question was SETTLED in the 1997 Sheriffs Mack/Printz Ruling. That’s WHY the judge ruled the way he did. Because HE cant overrule the U.S. Supreme Court.
Problem with liberals is they dont care about the constitution at al in fact they want to live under the control of government.
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City trumps county, county trumps state, and state trumps federal…the federal government has no business a a state level…people really need to study the facts before even commenting on something they apparently know nothing about!
I want to “trump” YOU, Peggy! :P I find intelligence in a woman very attractive, by the way. You are correct and just to make you smile, I’d enjoy listening to your every word, by moon-light.
Peggy, you are completely right. People on here have no idea what they’re talking about. I’m sorry but that includes you. Just read Article VI of the US Constitution. In order to be a state you have to ratify the US Constitution which means we are either living under Constitutional law or we are not. I say lawyers and judges have perverted the law and we are living by precedential law and not Constitutional law which is tyranny.
Wow, all i can say is wow, where the hell did you get your misinformation from flybob? Lamestream or school?
The Constitution does NOT have to be radified to bring in a “new” state.
Article IV, Section 3; New states may be admitted by the CONgress into the Union, but no new state shall be formed or erected within the jurisdection of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states; or parts of the states. without the Consent of the Legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the CONgress…..
This artical is about the 10th Amendment to the Constitution, its not about a tready between a state an the US Corporation as everybody calls the fed gov. The 10th trumps ALL extra-constitutional federal power…
Kim 9 states ratified the US Constitution and each state that has joined the union since has done the same. Ratify means to formally give consent. The 10th Amendment addresses what the states have legal right to decide on. It also states VERY clearly that the Constitution IS supreme law of the land by Article VI and that anything NOT mentioned in the Constitution is left for the states to decide or the people. I have NO idea where you come up with that corporation bullcrap but the Consitution is the law of the land and no “tready” as you call it can nullify that. Nor can the laws or constitutions of ANY state. My information comes from a long period of study not lamestream. THE problem we now have is that lawyers have convinced the majority of us that precedential law is more important than Constitutional law which is directly tyranny. Get a grip mam. I’ll not be answering to your comments again as I don’t think you have a clue and this is not the place to be improperly informed. If we start trying to make something that isn’t we will be defeating ourselves. Our ONLY concern should be to get back to the strict adherance to the Constitution. Any other way will only give credence to tyranny.
This is exactly why President Bush did not send in the troop into Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina hit. The President cannot do anything till the Governor of said State asks for help AND gives permission for the Federal government to come in. At that time the liberal Governor of Lousiana dragged her feet for several days before asking for help, and her people suffered for her decision. Mississippi asked right away and got the help, that’s why you didn’t hear of any problems in that state after Katrina. I’m happy for Wyoming to stand up to Washington, and hope more States follow!
VERY true; President Bush could not just trump the Governor of Louisiana; the President, TOO, is to be held under the laws of our U.S. Constitution; there IS an order that even the United States President must still abide by, being an American citizen. The Governor of Louisiana sets the mandate for the state, NOT the President. Every-thing about the U.S. Constitution, the law of the ENTIRE U-N-I-T-E-D States, EACH state being held within, is specifies order of operation. Within each state, the GOVERNOR sets the mandate, based on state Charter Constitution, BUT each state law must always comply with the U.S. Constitution.
People, an agreement under international law is a TREATY, not a TREADY. If you insist on arguing vociferously, at least learn the grammar and spelling of the subject matter.
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First and fore-most, we are Americans. As such, we are United and further-more, We the People AGREED to be held under the laws of the Constitution of the UNITED States, hence U-N-I-T-E-D states, meaning each state is one and the SAME, under ONE ruling law, the U.S. Constitution. In THIS order, each state agrees to be UNITED as one and the same; I can go to Hawaii and even though I’m from Wyoming, the SAME U.S. Constitutional rights would still apply. NO state in the UNITED states is sovereign. ALL states are equal in regards to the U.S. Constitution. Within each state, the governor sets the order, based on THAT state’s constitution, BUT each state, while able to have mandates, must ALL comply under the U.S. Constitution, the law of the ENTIRE U-N-I-T-E-D States of America, for which We the People of the United States agree to be held under/by. ONE Nation, UNDER God, indivisable, meaning, NOT divided but EQUAL. In THIS regard, a Sheriff has jurisprudence within the county appointed; no out-side agency, organization of authority (FBI, NSA, etc) can just come in and usurp the Sheriff WITHOUT federal court approval AND of the Governor. a U.S. Marshall must FIRST submit prior notice, to be signed by the Sheriff from which the U.S. Marshall intends to operate, with the Sheriff maintaining his/her jurisprudence.
I love these comments! But I’m going with the state has right to be sovereign. And as I look at, being since were not one nation under God anymore.! Thou shall be one state or states sovereign under GOD!
Thank God for MEN who were and are aware of the oath they took and have the grit to honor that oath.
Any attempt to pass a law infringing on constitutional rights punishable by fines and imprisonment. Section 18 USC 242 of I’m not mistaken. Thank you true law enforcement officer’s
By the way, all officials, including the President took the same oath. To uphold the constitution, not change it. Swearing in can be googled
Little late to Todd’s reply, but…
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Todd S.
Article VI, Clause 2
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
Clearly this shows that federal law supersedes state and local laws.
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Clearly it does not. Read it again…
Constitution, then State Law, then Federal Law
The Feds can have a law but the states can create a law which supercedes Federal Law.
“anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding”
The people are the supreme power but they have forgotten that. The Constitution gives them that power. The States come second, and their representatives which are elected are in the Federal Government to speak for the State however the State can within it’s own elective pass it’s own laws which override Federal Law.
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